Mobilní Ryzen na rok 2022 „Rembrandt“ je pořád Zen 3. Ale má 6nm proces, PCIe 4.0 a USB4

23. 9. 2020

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 Autor: Fritzchens Fritz, použito se souhlasem autora - public domain
Z roadmapy unikly detaily APU Rembrandt - čipu, který bude tvořit Ryzeny 6000 pro notebooky v roce 2022. Pořád má jádra Zen 3, ale už s USB4, 6nm procesem a dalšími novinkami, například DDR5-5200.

Nedávno začaly unikat z dlouho tajené roadmapy AMD detaily k budoucím procesorům – k APU Lucienne, Cezanne a Van Gogh. Teď tu máme pokračování: detaily k následující generaci Rembrandt. To by měly být už Ryzeny 6000 pro notebooky (a posléze desktopová APU pro socket AM5), které vyjdou až v roce 2022. Konečně tedy máme lepší představu, co AMD chystá v následujících letech.

Rembrandt už nám byl známý nějakou dobu, má jít o první APU s pamětí DDR5, jeho souputníkem má být čistě-CPU Ryzen 6000 „Raphael“. Na internet se teď dostaly informace od dvou twitterových leakerů Patricka Schura a MebiuW, které přidávají podrobnější informace.

Ryzen 6000 (APU): Zen 3 a 6 nm

Podle druhého z nich (který ovšem promluvil až po Schurovi) bude Rembrandt mít stejně jako Cezanne pořád jádra Zen 3. V roadmapě – jejíž kousek MebiuW teď ukázal, ale celou ji zatím drží v tajnosti (mezulán…), je Rembrant veden jako produkt pro rok 2022, takže AMD ještě v této době nenasadí nový Zen 4 do notebooků, APU s ním pravděpodobně vyjde až na začátku roku 2023.

Tip: Unikly informace k Zenu 3 a Zenu 4. Může mít IPC vyšší o 15 %

Ovšem proti Cezanne bude už použitá nová architektura integrovaného GPU, je řečeno Navi2, takže asi již RDNA 2. Jsou potvrzené paměti DDR5 (takže desktopová verze už bude mít socket AM5) a také integrování „CVML“, což je asi obvod pro zpracování obrazu a akceleraci AI (Computer Vision/Machine Learning), který předtím bude mít premiéru v APU Van Gogh.

tržek roadmapy AMD ukazující APU Rembrandt září 2020 tržek roadmapy AMD ukazující APU Rembrandt, září 2020 (Zdroj: MebiuW)

Co je obzvlášť zajímavé: MebiuWem ukázaný útržek roadmapy říká, že procesor sice ještě není 5nm, ale bude používat 6nm proces, což je vylepšený derivát 7nm výroby. Jaké přesně přednosti tím AMD získá proti 7nm procesu u Cezanne, to bude ovšem záviset na tom, jak výrazně návrh čipu přizpůsobí. U 12nm procesorů například AMD získalo jen o trošku lepší frekvence, ale protože nepřepracovalo čip s novými knihovnami, nenastalo žádné zlepšení hustoty tranzistorů.

LPDDR5, DDR5-5200, PCIe 4.0 a USB4

A také jsou potvrzené paměti DDR5, ovšem notebooková verze již bude umět i LPDDR5. Podle Patricka Schura má Rembrandt podporovat DDR5-5200, jen nevíme, zda v noteboocích či na desktopu (či obojím). LPDDR5 v noteboocích má snad být podporována až na 6400 MHz efektivně (LPDDR5-6400), což by dávalo iGPU opravdu dobrou propustnost.

Jak MebiuW, tak Schur uvádějí, že APU Rembrandt už umí PCI Express 4.0, který u Renoiru a Cezanne chybí (a Intel Tiger Lake už ho v noteboocích má). Podle Schura má APU 20 linek PCI Express 4.0, takže kromě ×4 pro SSD už i plný slot PCIe 4.0 ×16 pro samostatnou grafiku.

https://twitter.com/patrickschur_/status/1308484619097042945

A pozor, Rembrandt už údajně podporuje USB4, jako první procesor od AMD (Intel zavedl podporu v Tiger Lake). Půjde tedy o první platformu podporující otevřenou verzi Tunderboltu, která není od Intelu. Rembrandt bude údajně poskytovat dva porty USB4 – minimálně v noteboocích, uvidíme, jaká bude situace na desktopových deskách, kde výrobci mohou tuto konektivitu ignorovat.

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Vydání za 15 až 18 měsíců

Ještě nepadla žádná konkrétní informace o tom, kdy tyto procesory přijdou na trh, ale AMD v poslední době drží zvyk, že mobilní APU představí vždy v lednu na CES. Pokud teď mobilní Ryzen 5000 Cezanne vyjde v lednu 2021, pak mobilní Ryzen 6000 Rembrandt nejspíš bude na začátku roku 2022 (desktopová verze pak třeba v létě). Pak dává smysl, že ještě neobsahuje Zen 4, procesory s touto architekturou asi totiž AMD vydá pro desktop a servery až v druhé polovině roku 2022, na 5nm procesu.

Galerie: Úniky k APU Cezanne (AMD Ryzen 5000), Van Gogh, Lucienne a Rembrandt (Ryzen 6000)

Zdroje: VideoCardz, Patrick Schur, MebiuW

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